Thursday, October 16, 2008

HOBBES DPDs

Hello D Block students! Please post you DPDs or comment on other DPDs here. I want to see the class discuss what the DPD should be. Ideally, YOU will decide what the DPD is, not me!!

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Happy interpreting!

36 comments:

Unknown said...

Why can't two men enjoy the same thing, or in other words "cattle," security, and different opinions?
Ilhan Savut

Nate Bachar said...

DPD By Nate Bachar

-Is the reason for the three principal causes for quarrel (competition, difference, and glory) is because nature made human equal in their body and mind?

- If men keep using the three princpal causes of quarrel without a common power to keep them of doing such things, does that mean men are in a constant war?

Anonymous said...

- Must the multitude be united in one person in order for natural laws to function?

- If there is no injustice in the war of every man against every man because there are no laws, is there injustice under the rules of a monarch because the presence of laws?

Anonymous said...

If men are equal and are only different if they claim a difference then how can there be a winner to and argument or a fight?
-Maria

CF said...

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Unknown said...

If the natural State of man is simply greed, deceit, and violence, how can Thomas Hobbes believe one man should be given complete power over others. Isn't their a possibility of deceit, violence, and greed from that ruler too?

-Antoine Preel Dumas

Unknown said...

If the first and fundamental law of nature is to seek peace and follow it, how come men are not satisfied with what they have? And why do they become enemies and try to subdue or destroy each other in order to pursue the same thing?
Ilhan Savut

MinJoo Cho said...

If the common power is capable of preventing wars, how can we explain wars nowadays?

Anji Singh said...

Will common power work if everybody is in war against each other?

Luisa said...

- if all men are bad and rootless then why should we all trust another, bad and rootless man to be our ruler?
I think most DPD's are in this question of who can be trusted if all of us are greedy and evil....

Yujin said...

How can a man endeavor peace if his natural condition is to be in constant warfare with another human being?

- Yujin

Anonymous said...

So far all of our DPD have to do with war, greed and evil... so our class DPD could involve all three of those...

Luisa said...

yep i agree with majo.

Unknown said...

If men are naturally evil, malevolent, and focused on destroying or stealing that which belongs to others, how can society even begin to function adequately in the first place?

Isabella Garimani said...

If the difference in men isn't that considerable, then why do problems form that lead to wars, etc..?

-isa garimani

Unknown said...

There is always the competition to men to see who is the strongest but why do men need to be selfish and take the power of others or be the one in authority?

123 said...

My DPD By Juan Sevi

•Is there a possibility to have a sovereign or a absolute ruler, but also have sub-leaders so that it is easier for the absolute ruler to govern?

•Thought:
Is the British Commonwealth actually a commonwealth? (actually there are different countries with different justices, political organization,etc. that form it, so there it isn't really a commonwealth
P.S. I might be wrong.)

123 said...

Class DPD by Juan Sevi

I agree with Majo's Class DPD, but we could also add something about common power or an absolute ruler.

Actually there are a few DPDs, like Antoine's, that have something to do with all of these topics. Maybe we could tweak it a bit or add a few things.

Luisa said...

Ya, i dont know if this will work, but maybe something like:

Do man's birth given defects, such as greed, deceit, and violence, have any impact on how the society proceeds, such as its wars?

Guys, please help me change it so we can have a class one that everyone agrees on :D

Anonymous said...

If man are naturally birth bad , and evil and all trust another then how can human appoint a ruler?

Anonymous said...

Aw... i got too late
My DPD: If the nature of human are all related to overpower others, then what about the fundamental law of nature?

Well, Luisa, i think we should try something with more references in the text, and more than war (looking at the comments) most of them mentioned human's nature (including me) so i think is better starting with that...

-Sung

roberto said...

my DPD is
if man kind is naturally greedy and violent even though they seek for peace, what influence can a king or ruler who is also a man kind have on the governed

Roberto

Anonymous said...

okay so our class dpd should talk about evil greed wars and a ruler or a king...

Edward Lin said...

If men are all equal and are also greedy, violent, and deceitful, then how can they just choose and agree to give all the power to one person in a commonwealth, even though they have a common purpose, wouldn't it still be risky because the person they are giving all the power to is as equal as all of them?
Edward

Luisa said...

I dont know if that's everyone that submitted their DPD, but we really need to come up with a class one soon...

Unknown said...

Indeed... well, i think something like edward's DPD but shorter...

Sung Lee said...

oh srry the last comment (eunbee) is mine, but my sister logged into her account while i was out
-sung

Luisa said...

so okay what's our final decision on the Class DPD?

Kevin Echevarria said...

-If two men cannot both enjoy the same thing, and become enemies, does this mean humans cannot be in peace?

Sung Lee said...

If man's nature is to be selfish and powerful then how can they let one person to take care of others?

Well... that's like kinda short, if you can like put more things you should, and you think this doesnt work then find another one, im not confident...
-sung

MinJoo Cho said...
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stav barak said...
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stav barak said...

DPD -
What are the arguments in which hobbes basis his theory of man againts man having a negative perception?

Stav Barak.

MinJoo Cho said...

Isn't it too dangerous to confer all power and strenght to 1 person? because human beings are selfish, if we give all the power and strength to one person, that person will use the it as he/she wishes to.

Meredith said...

Why dont we try something like this.
If all men are selfish, in that they cant share the same thing, violent and untrustful, in that they will fight and lie to better themselves, then how can the power of all men be united under one person that has there same faults?

Nate Bachar said...

Meredith that sounds good.
Juan your DPD is really god too